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Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: December 21, 2008 01:23PM

Anyone of you out there, got any information on these local colliery's

Jubilee Drift SN66597
Duffryn Amman Colliery SN66470
Erw Colliery SN66980
Wellington Colliery SN66820
Llwyn-yr-Haf Pit SN65535
Blaengarenig Colliery SN67565
Blaen-y-Garna Colliery SN69562

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: jim crow (IP Logged)
Date: December 21, 2008 10:05PM

The Wellington worked the Stanllyd,and was worked last by R Daniels in the early 70`s

Blaengrenig worked the Red Vein,finished late 80`s early 90`s

Both were Small mines,the others were bigger concerns

Jim crow

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: norm (IP Logged)
Date: December 21, 2008 10:28PM

good multi ethnic deity ,Jim I thought you'd gone to that drivage in the sky,glad I'm wrong ...merry christmas!!


Norman ,wy da.

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: jim crow (IP Logged)
Date: December 22, 2008 08:10AM

Norm,Not for a while yet,i hope,i`ve been practicing my shovelling skills in the cowshed,the more i put in the front end,the more that comes out through the door

Nadolig Llawen i pawb

Jim crow

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: December 22, 2008 07:06PM

Thank you for you reply Jim, the Jubilee Drift is just across the road from were I live, the others are at the back of me....! the Jubilee go's south under Cwmamman road there was a house on Cwmamman road that was going down into old workings a few years ago it been pulled down now, looking on a old map that I have the Jubilee stop's at disturbed ground -296 working the red vein, maybe this was the reason it finished. it seems to be the same line (path) has Duffryn Amman Colliery which is between the Jubilee and Wellington.
there is one called Gwndwmgwyn Colliery I think the spelling is wrong, it was at the back of the Cwmamman opencast site near Gellyceidrim Fach level.


Anthony

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: jim crow (IP Logged)
Date: December 22, 2008 09:47PM

The Jubilee was to deep to work the Red Vein,Dyffryn Amman is much higher,it did work the Red Vein,as did Gwndwngwyn,but the Garnant side of the Tyllwyd Fault

Jim crow

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: December 22, 2008 11:39PM

Do you know which one it did work...?, the Green and the Little was on North side of mine, or was it trying to get to the Red near Dyffryn Amman and gave up....!
been trying to look something on Jubilee, but not a thing on the web yet....! seems odd
thanks for your reply by the way.

Anthony

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: jim crow (IP Logged)
Date: December 23, 2008 08:27AM

I would imagine the Rhasfach and Pumpquart seams,the Stanllyd is alongside,but the otherside of the Gardners fault,the same as the Little and Green seams


As i mentioned earlier,the Red Vein is much higher up ,and to have reached that seam as it dipped,would have entailed a drivage more than double what was achieved,no point when they had better grade coal in the lower meausures

Jim crow

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: Tony (IP Logged)
Date: December 30, 2008 08:11AM

Anthony, It is not surprising that you have been unable to locate much on the Jubilee Drift. It was started in 1935 by Glanamman Anthracite Collieries Ltd., at SN 665134 and listed as Glanamman No. 2. In 1938 the coal which was found was unmarketable and work ceased and the site then abandoned in mid 1942. The seam was listed as the Pencraig, but in the abandonment details it stated that “seam abandoned, probably the Astell.”

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: December 30, 2008 09:14AM

It was on the land of Abergarenig by the River Amman it went under the Ammanford to Brynamman railway line, Cwmamman road, then Llwyncelyn road but it seems to stop soon after that, and now I can see way...!, you can still make out the old waste tip alongside Cwmamman road most of that is now built on.
Llwyn-yr-hap Pit was down river, a little up from the foot bridge below Aber-Nant Farm you still make out some old buildings at the river, I can remember the old farm building before the opencast came along. thanks for your reply Tony.

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: Tony (IP Logged)
Date: December 30, 2008 09:28AM

Llwyn-yr-haf operated for only fifteen years between 1935-50. However, on a South Wales Rly Co.’s map dated 1861, a colliery is shown in a similiar postion by the name of Llynyrhrf. I have nothing at all on this early site, so if you or anyone else can help, I would be very grateful.

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: December 30, 2008 10:40AM

Like you say, on map 1866 the colliery name is Llynyrhrf and not that many local pits (collierys) Cae Gerwin for one, also I see that there's one called the Garman Colliery it seems to be on the site of Pwll Perkins, any light on that one..?. Llwyn-yr-haf pit seems to have it's name from Llwyn-yr-haf a farm or house on the site used by the opencast for they office's.

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: stuart (IP Logged)
Date: February 07, 2009 12:02AM

anthony
where do you get these maps from mate

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: February 07, 2009 01:00PM

They are published by David & Charles Brunel House, Newton Abbot, Devon


Anthony

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: Tony (IP Logged)
Date: February 08, 2009 07:05AM

Anthony, I missed Garman (Pwll Perkins). Where abouts was it please?

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: Phil the coal (IP Logged)
Date: February 08, 2009 08:46AM

Pwll Perkins was at the bottom of the hill leading from Garnant up to Gwaun Cae Gurwen.

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: February 08, 2009 01:02PM

On the the old map that I have its between Penteguine and Blaen-gar-nan at the bottom of the inclined plane before G.C.G, and on new map there are workings at SN69690 and SN69532 it seems to be very near Pwll Perkins, but it is on the old map has the Garman Colliery, if you do find anything on this one please let me know, I have put it on one of the forum list, but no one has come back with anything yet....!.


Anthony

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: Tony (IP Logged)
Date: February 08, 2009 01:22PM

I suspect that it was almost certainly a mis-spelling for Garnant Colly, unless that is shown as well. Garnant was in existence at 1866 and loaded wagons at a siding a quarter of a mile from the sidings at the bottom of the incline.

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: February 08, 2009 01:28PM

Now that you have put it like that, I can see were you are going, I need to get my head into gear, thanks Tony


Anthony

Re: Local Colliery's in Glanamman-Garnant
Posted by: anthony (IP Logged)
Date: April 01, 2009 10:19PM

[attachment 504 DuffrynColliery.JPG]
This is the key stone over drift at the Duffryn Amman Colliery Glanamman, would like more information on this colliery if any has it...!


Anthony

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